David[b][user=658]Wesley[/user] wrote: [/b][quote]:DDavid:D,
You have Previously Posted, “Significant Brake Bind”, When Measured using “RBT”,:P
So, If “You”, Havent noticed Any “Significant” “Brake Bind” using the “RBT” whilst checking “The Service Brake” readings, Then How can “You” suddenly notice an “Issue” with the Parking Brake readings?:?
In previous postings “You” State that You normally do, And recommend that the “RBT” readings Are carried out after the Inspection.
How come “You” Have not taken Notes, that there might be “A Slight Bind When Rotated By Hand”:?
When You select Rear Brake section, Where does it state the differenece for “Bind”?
I failed a vehicle Last Week for NSR Brake Bind, On “Further” Inspection I was Informed, that the brake lever on the brake shoe Was, Sticking!
My “Crystal Ball” Is Not Part Of “The Inspection”! My Cocker,:P;):D
LOL! Wes.:D
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I will answer your post Wes as you have presented it.
You say; You have Previously Posted, “Significant Brake Bind”, When Measured using “RBT”,:P “Meaning me”
A significant brake bind when measured using the roller brake tester would have to be assessed using the correct method of inspection for the type of brake being tested, e.g. a service brake which has a significant bind is either checked using Method of Inspection (3.7A.2a) which refers to the front service brakes, or Method of Inspection (3.7A.5a) which refers to the rear service brakes. When the test has been completed the brakes are either binding or they are not. Note, that no mot tester in the UK can test the park brake before the service brake, why, because you or an assistant drives the vehicle into the test bay first and stops the vehicle using the service brake, next you test the operation of the servo by pressing the service brake and holding pressure on it, if after this a brake was defective, you would know if a problem existed on the brakes would you not?
You said; So, If “You”, Havent noticed Any “Significant” “Brake Bind” using the “RBT” whilst checking “The Service Brake” readings, Then How can “You” suddenly notice an “Issue” with the Parking Brake readings?:?
Sorry, you obviously don’t understand independant service and park brake as fitted to some Vauxhall and Rover vehicles. As I have previously said in another post, if the service brake does not bind after testing it, no other faults present, then that brake has passed. The park brake fitted to Vauxhall Omega and Rover 75 models is an independant brake from the service brake, e.g. the service brake is a disc/caliper arrangement, and the park brake is a drum arrangement built into the rear service brake disc assembly. These are two entiry different brakes.
If and on this occasion it wasn’t the service brake had been binding, but if it had then a fail would have been issued, from this point it would have been difficult to establish if a park brake had or had not got a problem, even when independant from each other, in that case also a “Pass and Advise”.
You said; So, If “You”, Havent noticed Any “Significant” “Brake Bind” using the “RBT” whilst checking “The Service Brake” readings, Then How can “You” suddenly notice an “Issue” with the Parking Brake readings?:?
In previous postings “You” State that You normally do, And recommend that the “RBT” readings Are carried out after the Inspection.
How come “You” Have not taken Notes, that there might be “A Slight Bind When Rotated By Hand”:?
When checking the wheels, bearings and tyres I had no cause to suspect that there was any issue with any brake binding, no wheel had any difficulty turning freely by hand.
In this forums posts if you refer back you will read that I said the “Park Brake did not release as required” indicating a binding park brake.
You said; I failed a vehicle Last Week for NSR Brake Bind, On “Further” Inspection I was Informed, that the brake lever on the brake shoe Was, Sticking!
I am not saying on that model of vehicle you tested last week for failing is incorrect, what I am saying on this post is, do you understand the type of braking system I am talking about, and can you relate the regulations to them to be applied, the conclusions are, clearly at this moment in time none of you can.
David:D
